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CNN RLK: But there are five real reasons that are problematic to the US with respect to China: closed markets; intellectual property protection; industrial espionage, which includes cyber theft; forced technology transfer in JVs; and government support for future industries. Those are five real issues that the smart people in America are focusing on. And legitimately so. RLK: But these are, I believe, solvable — because intellectual property rights, China's improving. Industrial espionage, they're reducing and they have reduced. It needs to be more. Tech transfer, I think that will be eliminated. RLK: The two critical issues are government support of nascent industries in China and the opening of markets. I think ultimately those two can be traded. The US can recognize that China can do some of those things with certain restrictions and really open their markets more. I think that's the ultimate trade. November 2017 = Beijing JACK MA: TRADE WAR COULD LAST 20 YEARS Fa"') Robert Lawrence Kuhn | Long-term adviser to China's leaders su 4 sss: QUEST MEANS ‘BUSINESS November 2017 JACK MA: TRADE WAR COULD LAST 20 YEARS [fe DAX A 61.26 QUEST MEANS BUSINESS HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_026875

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