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316 | Notes to pages 113-121 109 first live interview in Moscow: Snowden met with James Bamford, the author of the 1982 book The Puzzle Palace, in Moscow in June 2014. Bamford, “Edward Snowden.” CHAPTER 13 The Great Divide 113. “That moral decision”: Edward Snowden, statement, http://wikileaks/statement -from-Edward-Snowden. 114 “Sitting on his unmade bed”: Packer, “Holder of Secrets.” 114 This powerful narrative: See Greenwald, No Place to Hide, 248-54; Snowden, interview with Williams. 114 “There was no question”: Emily Bell, “Snowden Interview: Why the Media Isn’t Doing Its Job,” Columbia Journalism Review, May 10, 2016. 115 When two NSA analysts: “Claim US Spy Caught with Secrets,” Los Angeles Mirror, Aug. 2, 1960, 1. Also see Rick Anderson, “Before Edward Snowden,” Salon, July 1, 2013. 115 “man up”: Interview with John Kerry, CBS This Morning, May 28, 2014. 115 By the Lawfare Institute’s count: https://www.lawfareblog.com/snowden -revelations. 116 British cyber service GCHQ: RT television report, “NSA, GCHQ Targeted Kaspersky, Other Cyber Security Companies,” June 22, 2015, http://www.rt.com /asa/268891-nsa-gchq-software-kaspersky/. 116 six government employees: Matt Apuzzo, “C.LA. Officer Is Found Guilty in Leak ® Tied to Times Reporter,” New York Times, Jan. 26, 2015. The notable exception ® to the policy of seeking imprisonment of intelligence workers found guilty of passing classified information to journalists is the extraordinary case of the ex- CIA director General David Petraeus. Petraeus had given classified information from his personal notebooks to his mistress and biographer, Paula Broadwell. Although none of this information appeared in her 2012 biography, All In: The Education of Davis Petraeus, he had violated his oath to protect this informa- tion. Yet in a 2014 deal with the Justice Department, Petraeus was allowed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge and sentenced to two years’ probation and a $100,000 fine. See Eli Lake, “Petraeus, Justice, and Washington’s Culture of Leaks,” Bloomberg View, March 4, 2015. 117 he posted about it: Snowden wrote in chat rooms on the Ars Technica site between May 2001 and May 20712. His posts are quoted by Mullin, “NSA Leaker Ed Snowden’s Life on Ars Technica.” 117 “an act of civil disobedience”: Mayer, “Snowden Calls Russian-Spy Story ‘Absurd’ in Exclusive Interview.” 117 Ben Wizner, a lawyer: Wizner called his representation of Snowden the “work of a lifetime.” Hill, “How ACLU Lawyer Ben Wizner Became Snowden’s Lawyer.” 118 “We've crossed lines”: Snowden quoted by Bamford, “Edward Snowden.” 119 “Snowden a whistleblower”: Cheryl Arvidson, “Distrust of Government Appar- ent in Snowden Case,” Leader's Edge, Oct. 2013. 119 “they can trust”: “Beyond Distrust: How Americans View Their Government,” Pew Research Center, Nov. 23, 2015. 119 “Thanks to one man’s”: Rebecca Shabad, “Former Rep. Ron Paul Launches Peti- tion for Snowden Clemency,” Hill, Feb. 13, 2014. | | Epst_9780451494566_2p_all_r1.indd 316 ® 9/30/16 8:13AM | | HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019804

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