MR. CASSELL: All right. Well, we thought, when we

10 id. 12 13 14 L5 16 ne) 18 life) 20 21 22 23 24 25 101 H3vlgiu2 r MR. CASSELL: All right. Well, we thought, when we filed our response, they continued to oppose it. If they had just stipulated, you know, I wouldn't be taking your Honor's time. But this is where I think they're taking a narrow uncontested principle, that her net worth doesn't come in, and are going to try to use it to exclud vidence that Ms. Maxwell is making payments to the girls, that this mansion is a very -- THE COURT: Well, okay. I don't think so. MR. CASSELL: Let me just make sure that I have on the table the things that we want to introduce. For example, Mr. Epstein purchased a helicopter for Ms. Maxwell, and they might say, oh, well, that shows financial status or something. We think that shows a very close connection. Well, the last one and perhaps the most controversial one in connection with this case is the townhouse. It is our belief that a -—- THE COURT: Well, wait a minute. What's the basis of your belief? MR. CASSELL: The basis for our belief is, I believe they've conceded that there was a sale of a $17 million townhouse in 2016. THE COURT: Okay. Is it the defendant's townhouse? a] MR. CASSELL: Yes. So the question is -- SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011404