COURT: Like all of you, you woke up in the middle
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COURT: Like all of you, you woke up in the middle
of the night thinking about this case. I would like to see if
I can clarify my understanding.
In the motion to dismiss, I concluded, I think, that
what was at issue was the truth or falsity of the plaintiff's
allegations concerning sexual abuse and the activities of the
defendant. I think that's my sense of my own opinion.
Yesterday, we were discussing the redactions of the
intervention motion. I got the sense, perhaps wrongly, that
the plaintiff's position was that the defamation was the truth
or falsity of the statements relating to the defendant.
Period. Am I correct?
MS. McCAWLEY: You are, your Honor, in that the
statements about the defendant to be clear, because one of
the allegations is, of course, she was a madam and a
coconspirator with Epstein -- do involve Epstein.
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COURT: Listen. Leave the pejorative out. Okay?
Please.
MS. McCAWLEY: Sure.
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COURT: Simply because I'm trying to come to
grips, obviously, with the scope of this case, which is a real
issue, obviously. So is it you are restricting your claim to
the truth and falsity of the statements about Maxwell?
MS. McCAWLEY: Yes, that is the case, your Honor. The
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