What was his motive against you?

oOnrat nu FWD NNNNNNFPPRP PP EP BP PP OUPWNHH OWA YH UA WNE O wo wmwmrH nM ® WD NNNNN DY HBP we ew ee Pe EY MO ® WN FH Oo WO WAH WU FW NY FF OD 281 What was his motive against you? A. I was Jeffrey Epstein’s friend and lawyer and, in fact -- well, I can't get into this. But I can say this, I gave advice -- MR. SCOTT: Be careful about anything involving -- THE WITNESS: Okay. MR. SCOTT: -- Mr. Epstein, please. A. He could easily have believed that 1 was one of the causes of his firing. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. So, he was -- he may have been angry at you because you assisted in getting him fired? A. It's -- MR. SCOTT: Objection, mischaracterization. A. It's conjecture. It's possible. But in any event, even -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. It's conjecture, is that what you were about to say? A. I'm saying I have -- I don't know what he was thinking, but there is a basis for him believing that. But most -- most important, even if you take everything he says as true, which it's not, it's wo Owas HAM FW NY NN NN NN MH eb Rob pop pp be OB WN HE OO ON AH B® WRK eH OO 283 A. Yes. Q. A man who would never undertake to advance the cause of a client whom he believed to be incredible, right? A. Yes. And a man who told me and a man who -- MR. SCOTT: That's it. A. Okay. And aman who believes I'm innocent. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. You knew that Bob Josefsberg would never file charges on behalf of a client alleging that she was lent out by Jeffrey Epstein for purposes of sexual abuse while she was a minor to academicians unless he absolutely had confidence that those statements were true -- MR. SCOTT: Let me object - BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. ~~ right? MR. SCOTT: -- that this is completely irrelevant to the issues in this case. Whatever Mr. Josefsberg thinks has nothing to do with this lawsuit. This is all your effort to try to put Josefsberg into this case to try to give some justification to your position. 282 exculpatory because it has no suggestion that | ever had any sexual encounter with Virginia Roberts. And if | were a lawyer reading that -- MR. SCOTT: It’s okay? A. -- [certainly would not base this heinous accusation on that flimsy read. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. You know the context in which that deposition was taken, den't you? A. I don't recall it as I'm sitting here today. Q. Do you remember that the lawsuit in which that deposition was taken was a lawsuit in which Virginia Roberts was being represented by Bob Josefsberg? A. No. Q. You know Bob Josefsberg, don't you? A. We -- we were classmates at law school. Q. You know Bob Josefsberg to be an extremely ethical, highly professional and extraordinarily well-respected lawyer, right? . Absolutely, yes. . Absolutely? . Yeah. A man of impeccable honesty and integrity? Ww oarnnauth WNP NNNNNNFPRPP RPP PB Pep OBWNHF Oban nuhwWNHHO A. Tl answer that question. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Thank you. A. And also know Bob Josefsberg and know that he would never maintain a friendship, as he has with me, if he believed that | was one of the, quote, academicians -- Q. Well, how about — A. -- with whom -- Q. -- answering my question -- MR. SCOTT: Wait a minute. No, no, no. A. You're going to let me finish. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Lknow I'm going to go, but I don't have to like it — MR. SCOTT: Yeah, but -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. ~- when you're not being responsive to the questions that are being asked. MR. SCOTT: Yeah, but you're interjecting ~ BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. And -- MR. SCOTT: You're interjecting questions that are irrelevant utilizing Bob Josefsberg's 27 (Pages 281 to 284) www.phippsreporting.com (888) 811-3408 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010809